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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA

RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR

TESTIMONY,
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Federal Grand Jury 07-103
Federal Building
U.S. Courthouse

West Palm Beach, Florida

Tuesday, April 24,

APPEARANCES:

Assistant United States Attorney

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The sworn testimony of I |] was

taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm
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Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse,

Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday,

April 24, 2007.

Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court

Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida,
Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews
Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida,

33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn

testimony.

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(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.)

THE FOREFPEREON: You do solemnly swear
that the testimony you give will be the
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth, so help you God?

THE WITNESS: I do.

THE FOREFERSON: Thank you. Please be
seated.

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Q Good afternoon, Ms.  B Could you

state and spell your name for the record?

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Q And where do you currently live?

bh I live -- do vou want me to give the
address?

2 Sure.
Florida 33412.

2 Okay. And vou are living with your
parents now?

B Yes.

» Were you served with a subpoena to
appear before the grand jury today?

A Yes.

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Q And do you understand that an order was
signed by a judge compelling you to appear and
answer guestions?

A Tas.

Q And that order states that what you tell
the grand jury won't be used against unless you
perjure yourself?

A Tas.

Q Do you understand that you are under
cath, and if you don't tell the truth --

A I can go to jail, yes.

Q Okay. Let's start with where you went

to high school.

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Q How ©ld are you today?

A Twenty-one.

2 And what is your date of birth?
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. Q What year did you graduate tron [EN
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A 2004.
Q And where are you currently working?
A I currently am not working.

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Q Where will that be?
| A Fort Lauderdale, Coral Springs.
Q What type of position will that be?
| Q Have vou worked since the time that vou

graduated from high school?
A Uh-huh.
0 Can you tell the grand jury what type of

jobs you have had?

worked in a club up in Orlando as ne as
well. I have also worked at a sports bar as a
waltress.

0 When you were in high school, where did
You work?

Q And do you know Jeffrey Epstein?

B Yes, I do..

Q Can you tell the grand jury how wyou
first came to meet Mr. Epstein?

A I met Epstein through two acguaintances,
a --- and I met them at a beach resort.

They made a proposition to me. Later then I
picked them up and they gave me directions to the

house and that's where I was formerly introduced

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to Mr. Epstein.

Q . Okay. And let me just go back over that

la little bit. You mentioned that you had two

acquaintances, BE -c 1] and vou met them at

a beach resort, correct?

A Yes.

Q And you said that they made a
proposition to vou. What was that exactly?

A BE [2d asked me if I wanted to make
money and she was working for this guy, Epstein,
in Palm Beach. So I told her I was interested and
she further went into detail about massaging him,
that you would have to take off articles of

clothing and there would be touching and fondling

‘involved.

Q How old were vou when this happened?

A About 16.

Q And how old was [IE

A Same age.

Q And how did you know [

A We went to ] together.

Q And she was in your same grade in high
school?

A Yeah.

Q And you mentioned that [JJ] ha2

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previcusly worked for Epstein or was currently
working for Epstein?

r} Yes, that's right.

Q So they explained this proposal to you

and you said that you would be interested?

A Tes.
Q What happened next?
A Within a couple of days to a week I

picked them up and I went to his house to work for
him and I was introduced to [JJJJ. who is his
assistant. She took me upstairs to Epstein's
bedroom and that's where the massage took place.

I was naked and he tried fondling me and
I wouldn't have it, so after the massage he gave
me another proposition to bring girls to the house
and for every girl that I brought I would make
$200.

Q All right. We'll go back over that a
little more slowly. I know this is a lot of
information. Sc let's go back to the proposition
that [Jl 20d J nade to you.

Did they say you would be paid for
massaging Mr. Epstein?

A Yes.

0 And how much would you be paid?

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A $200.

Q Now you said that they had told you that
you might have to take your clothing off?

A They told me that I was expected to take
my clothing off and that there would be fondling.

Q Okay. And what -- did they explain

what fondling meant?

FA Just that he'd be touching me.

Q Okay. And so you agreed to do that and

you went to Mr. Epstein's home?

A Correct.

Q And where was that located?

A Falm Beach, Brillo Way.

Q B-R-I-L-L-07%

A Yes.

Q And when vou arrived at the home, You
said that vou were driving with I and BB:

A That is correct.

Q Tell us how you got into the house.

A We went through a gate on the side of

the house that led to the back and we just rang
the doorbell and I answered the door and we
were standing in the kitchen and then |]

brought me upstairs.

Q Okay. Now did you have any -- did [

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tell You anything about what you would do when vou

got upstairs?

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A Ne, =he never discussed that with me.
Q Did she say anything to you about taking
your clothes off?
A No, she never discussed that with me. |
Q Okay. When you arrived upstairs, vou |
said that you went into a bedroom? |
AR That is correct. |
Q What was in the bedroom? |
A It was a bedroom that had a decor that |
led to then I want to say a bigger more than Just
a bathroom. It was a bigger room with like a
pretty large size walk-in closet, a shower, a If
steam shower, and then two sinks on the right, and
in the middle laid the massage table, and then to
the left there was two couches.
Q And so the massage table was already set
up when you arrived?
A That is correct.
Q Okay. And after J 129 you up te the
bedroom, what did she do?
A She had left and that's when Epstein
came in.
Q Ckay. And when Mr. Epstein came in,
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2 B He was wearing a towel.

3 Q Okay. And nothing else?

4 RB Nothing else.

5 Q And what did he dc?

6 A He laid on the table and that's when the
Fr) massage began and later en he -- when he got in, I

8 tock off my clothes and I was just wearing my
9 |bottoms, and he later tried to touch me and he

10 grabbed my butt, and that's when I had a problem.

11 I told him that I didn't feel comfortable.

12 So later he took the towel off and he

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16 was done.

17 Q Okay. So when Mr. Epstein I

18 then the massage or whatever was over?

19 A Yes, it was.
20 Q And once that happened, what did he de? |
21 BR Just got up and dried himself off and

22 then walked me downstairs.

23 Q And vou got dressed as well?
24 A That's right.
25 Q And when you got back downstairs, what

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A I went back into the kitchen and he
pulled [ll] 2nd J 2s5ide and then we just left.
Of course, I got paid.

Q Okay. And tell us where you got paid,
who paid you, and how much you received?

A Epstein paid me . I received 200, but I
cannot recall if it was upstairs that he paid me
or if he waited until I got back downstairs.

Q Okay. And when he paid you the $200,
was it in small bills, large bills?

A Big bills, 100s.

Q Okay. So two 100 dellar bills. And von
said that he pulled [ll 2rc HH 2:13. po you
know what that was about?

A He would never pay them in front of me.
He always was funny about that. So I'm sure it
was Just paying them for bringing me.

0 Okay. And you mentioned that you told
Mr. Epstein that you were uncomfortable with him

touching you?

A That's correct.
Q And what became of that?
A Later on before I left ne had addressed

me to not massage him anymore, but asked me if I

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could bring girls over and for every girl that I
brought to the table he would pay me $200.

Q okay. So you weren't comfortable with
him touching you, so you weren't going to do any

more massages?

hn No.

Q He wanted you to find other girls?

A That's correct.

Q ind he wanted girls that would let him

touch them?
A Uh-huh. .
Q After that first massage, did you

perform any other massages at his house?

A Absolutely not..

Q Did you bring girls?

A That's correct.

Q Tell us how you started to bring girls

to Mr. Epstein's house.

A Just girls that I met in high school,
acquaintances, people that I just said hi and bye
te. BA lot of them actually heard about it through
a couple of girls that I brought and they were
interested.

seme of the girls asked me about it.

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Q Okay. So when you found a girl that you
thought would be interested, what exactly would
p— tell her?
A I asked them if they were interested in
making extra money and that I knew an older
wealthier man in Palm Beach who liked to have
massages and they would get paid $200.
The more they did, the more they make,
and I would explain to them in detail what was
expected of them when they showed up at the house
and I also teld them that if they are under age
Just lie about it and tell him that you are 18.
Q Let's talk first about what vou said f
that you tell them what was expected of them.
A Yes.
“Q First of all, why did you tell them
that?
A Because that's what I was told.
Q By whom?
A J] |] and [|B
Q Okay. And did Jeffrey Epstein ever
address you about don't bring girls over here if
they don't know what's geling to happen?
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Q Okay. So all the girls were supposed to
know that when they got there they would be
undressing?

A They would be undressing. There would
be, touching. There would be fondling. He was
very big on that. He told me never to bring a

girl over unless they knew what was expected.

Q Okay. And did you also tell them that
A I didn't really talk to them about that.

I didn't know if he did it with everybody or it
was just with me that he did that.

Q But you told them that they all would
have to be partially naked or fully naked?

A Partially to fully naked and there would
be touching and fondling.

Q Okay. How many girls do you think you
took to Mr. Epstein's house?

A seven, between seven to ten.

Q Okay. And were there any -- in addition
to this rule about the girls had to know what was
eXpected, did Mr. Epstein have any other rules in

terms of what the girls looked like or what he
liked?

A No.

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Q Okay. Were there girls that you brought

that he didn't like?

A There were a few girls he wasn't crazy
about. He didn't really like. He didn't favor.
} for instance, 23, he thought she was kind

of too old.

Q Okay. So you brought a girl named
Bl «hc was 23 years old?

A Yes,

Q And you were told that she was too old?

A Yes.

Q Did you ever bring her back?

A No.

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What about any other girls that he
didn't like?

A This other girl T went to high school
with, BB. she was maybe a year younger, and him
her in detail what was expected and she, to me,
was all for it and then when she got there,
decided she didn't want to perform what was
necessary. So they got ]
ne and after that I never really brought her
back.

Q Okay. And did either Jeffrey Epstein

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with [Jz

A He had made a comment just about -- I
had asked -- he had asked me for someone to come
over and work and when I suggested  B he kind of
nodded, not really interested. He told me to find
somebody else. So I assumed that meant he really
didn't care for her.

Q Okay. Now the -- you mentioned [JR
who was 23. What was the age range of the other
girls that you brought to Mr. Epstein's home?

I High school, 16 to 18.

Q Were there any girls who were vounger
than that?

A Yes.

Q Who was that?

F) I

Q And how was she?

A She was 14.

Q Okay. Now you were interviewed by the
Palm Beach Police Department?

A That's correct.

Q And during that interview, vou told them
that there were two ways to make money with

Jeffrey Epstein. Can you explain to the grand

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A The more you did is the more you make.
Basically, the more clothes that come off, the
more you let him touch you, the more you just let
him have his way with you is the more that you
would make, otherwise, vou would be demoted down

to bringing girls over and just making money that

way.
Q And that's what you were doing?
A That's correct.
2 Was bringing girls?
A That's correct.
Q If you could explain to the grand jury

how you would go about making an appeintment for a
girl to come and give a massage?

A His assistant there would call me either
before they got into town or while he was in town
and either she would ask me for a particular girl,
preferably one that he favored, or if I couldn't
get a hold of that girl just bring somebody over
te work.

I would call the girl. She would okay
it. I would call [ back, confirm it, set an
appointment, and then the next couple of days we'd

go.

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Q And was J the person that you always
made the appointment with?

A Always.

Q Do you remember ever talking to Jeffrey
Epstein on the telephone?

A Never. The only time I talked to him
was physically in person at his house.

Q Okay. [JJ vas really the person that
you had te. --

A Deal with.

Q Okay. Now you mentioned that sometimes
|] would request a specific girl?

A That's correct.

Q Did she give you any reason why he
really liked this girl or just is this girl

available? What would happen on those calls?

A If it was a specific girl, she would
call me and just ask: Can this girl work? She
would never give me a reason. She would never go
into detail. It was just: Can she work, yes or
no?

Q And lll vas saying to you can she
work?

A I can't recall if those were her exact
words. I can't remember if it. was: Can she come

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the exact words.

Q Okay. And once vou made those
appointments then who would normally take you and

the girls to the house?

A I would.

Q Okay. And vou would drive?

A I would drive.

Q And were all -- was this always taking

place at Mr. Epstein's home?

A Tes.

Q On Brille Wavy?

A That's correct.

Q When vou spoke with || TH <n the
telephone, did you -- were all of these

conversations &dbout setting up these appointments?

A When I would talk to [N-?

LW] Yes.

A Tes. Tt would be pure business whenever
I talked to [N.

Q So you didn't have any sort of friendly

relationship?
A No friendly relationship, never
sccialized unless I was at the house. It wasn't

like that at all.

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the house. They would let us in. I could sit in
the kitchen with the girl. I would either wait

for J tc come in or Jeffrey. Most of the time

it was [JN -

while I waited downstairs. After the massage, the
girl would come downstairs. I would get paid and

then we would leave.

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were the person who brought the girls.

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whether it be in his, I guess, living room slash

office.

me, it was just me and him, nobody else was

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girl?

Okay. Now when you would bring a new

Walk up the same way towards the back of

BB culd bring the girl upstairs

Tell us how you would get paid when you

What do you mean how I would get paid?
Who would pay you?

Jeffrey Epstein would pull me aside

He would just make sure that when he paid

And how much would you get paid fer each

$200.
And again with the two 100 dollar bills?

Always 100 dollar bills.

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did the massages get paid?

A No, I never saw them get paid. He never
paid us in front of each other.

Q Okay. Did the girls ever tell you that
they did get paid or how much they got paid?

A Most of the time.

Q Okay. And how much money would each

girl get paid?

A It ranges.
Q From?
A It ranges from 200 to some got paid 300.

Like I said, the more you do, the more you make.
There were a couple of girls that got paid 300,
400, and then there were a couple of girls that
got paid 200 mavbe even 100.

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would take the girl upstairs?

A That's correct.

Q Were there ever instances where you took
the girl upstairs?

A Very rarely. I think it happened once
or twice where [JJ vas doing something or she
would need me to go upstairs and set up. I would

just go upstairs. I would show her where the

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I would set it up for them. I would
show them where the towels were, put the towels on
the massage table and then I would tell them
Jeffrey would be in, in a minute and then I would
walk back downstairs and wait in the kitchen.

Q Okay. And when you were in these other
instances where y¥ou led the girl upstairs, besides
the massage table, did you ever see any cther
implements that were used during the massage?

A I think there were mavbe a few cccasions
where I would walk upstairs tec show the girl or

maybe it was even when I first massaged him, theré

was like a white BE: the table or a white

Q And can you describe that to the grand
IUry’?

A What it locked like?

Q What it locked like, ves.

A It was like =a F It was really
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that's all I remember.

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2 On visits?

a Yes.

Q Okay. In addition to those girls
that -- who I just named, you mentioned a woman,
BE: ho is 237

A Uh-huh.

Q Were there any other girls that you

recall bringing to Jeffrey Epstein's house?

A I cannot recall bringing anybody else.

Q Okay. Now one of those girls that we
mentioned ‘was |} HE correct?

A Yes.

Q And you told the police that Jeffrey
liked ] the best?

A Yes.

Q How o0ld was I

A She was around the same age as me, maybe

a grade lower than me.

Q Okay. 8c she was under age?
A Yes, correct.
Q And all of those girls who names I read

were under age when you brought them there?

A Except for  B
Q Okay. what did [EEE look like?

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Q And how tall do you think she was?
A About 5'5, 5'6.
Q Okay. And vou knew that Jeffrey liked

Ts because he would specifically reguest her?

A There was a few occasions that he would

specifically ask for her, correct.

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A Tes.

.. Did some of girls tell you what happened

inside of that bedroom?

A A few of them did.

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A Okay.

Q Did she tell you what happened?

A Bll that she really told me was that

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fondling her. She. wasn't having it, and then she

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ripped off.

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A She told me those things.

A That's correct.

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Q As you were driving away?

A That's correct.

Q Do you remember which other girls told
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massager, but I wasn't really paying attention.

Q Now when you first went and gave Mr.
Epstein the massage, did he ask for your telephone
number after you were finished?

A Noe, [I 2:12.

Q IB cid. And she took down your

telephone number?

A She took down my name and my telephone
number.
Q After that, how was all contact made

with you?

A fF

Q Directly to you?

A Directly toward me.

Q Okay. Seo were there any more instances

where she went either through | or HH to

reach you?

A Absolutely not.

Q Okay. Now when you brought girls over
was it the same thing where they would ask for the
girl's name and number?

A Yes.

0 And when that happened, would they
continue to go through you to set up appointments?

A Most of time they went through me.

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they liked the best, for instance, | P after
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other and Jeffrey just went strictly through her.

Q Okay. And when an appointment was made
directly with the girl, vou wouldn't necessarily
know about it?

A I would not necessarily know about it.

Q And when the appointment was made
directly with the girl then you wouldn't get paid,
correct?

A Correct.

Q Did you hear or do you know whether some
girls that you brought, brought more girls?

A Yeah, I'm sure of it.

Q Okay. When did you first meet ]

BE: Vas it that day that you went to give the

massage?

Bo That's correct.
Q and how did vou first meet her?
BR Just walking in the kitchen and waiting

for somebody whether it be Epstein or [J

BB care and introduced herself as [JJ 2nd 1:

learned that she was Epstein's assistant.

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Q And vou said that she was the one who

took vou upstairs on the first day?

A That's correct.

9] And we were talking earlier about how
appointments would be made for you te bring
additional girls, correct?

A Yas.

Q How far in advance would [ll c211 you
to make appointments?

A It depends. Sometimes she would call me
a few days in advance. Jeffrey is going to be in
town tomorrow or this weekend, have a couple of
girls lined up or have a girl lined up. So it
would be anywhere between a couple of days to a
weekend.

Q Okay. Did you ever talk with [HE or
did JJ ever tell you anything about what
Jeffrey liked to do with the girls?

A Absclutely not. We never discussed
that.

Q Did you ever talk with her about a rumor
that you had heard that a girl had intercourse
with Jeffrey?

A One day I was talking on the phone with
IB :nd I addressed her with it, asking her

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A Correct.
Q Okay. Did Jeffrey or Ie or anyone

else who worked for Mr. Epstein ever ask vou for
procf of someone's age?

A Never.

Q Did they ever specifically instruct you
that you shouldn't bring girls who were under age
to the house?

A Never.

Q And when you spoke with the police
department you said that at some point Jeffrey
said the vounger the better?

A That's correct.

Q And even after that he never said to you
but make sure that they are over 187

A We never discussed age. He never made a
comment about age except for I that one time
about her being too old. He never told me to go
find under aged girls, but at the same time never
said make sure they are over 18. It was never
discussed.

Q Okay. All right.

[ BEE: '~ going to ask you to

step outside for a minute and I will find out

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if the grand jury has guestions. Thank vou

very much.

(Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.)

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(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.)

Q Ms. JB I have to remind you that
you are still under oath. There were just two
follow-up guestions. The first one is something

that I think you spoke about earlier, but who
first asked you to find other girls?

a Who first asked me to first other girls?

od Tes.

B That would be Epstein.

2 Okay. So Jeffrey asked you himself,
Jeffrey Epstein himself asked you?

A Yes.

Q Okay. And then the other guestion was:

Are you currently in contact with anyone who works

for Mr. Epstein or himself?

A I don't talk to any of the females that
I once brought over there. I haven't been in
contact with Epstein for years. He tried

contacting me a few times.

I haven't contacted him back. I refuse

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to talk to him. I refuse to talk to any of the
girls that were involved. However, I did live
with one of the girls in Orlando for a couple
months to a year. I haven't spoken to her in over
a year either.

Q Okay. So after -- and just so the grand
jury has a sense here, we are talking about the
2004 to 2005 period is when you were bringing

girls over?

A That's correct.
Q So since then =--
A I doen't -- to be honest with you, I

think it was more 2003, 2004.

2 Okay.
A My junior senior year.
Q Dkay. But anyhow it was a couple of

years ago?
A Several years ago.
, Okay.
BN BE: 1s there any follow up
on either of those points? Yes, ]
A GRAND JUROR: Was it Jeffrey Epstein
himself trying to contact you or I
THE WITNESS: I don't know if it was "him

directly. I know that his number showed up

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IB +: there, I'm assuming that she is the
one that has been trying to contact me in the

past years. Epstein never talked directly to

me on the phone.

Bl BEEN: ov other follow up?
Okay. Thank vou, 1] Thank you for

coming.
(Witness was excused.)
CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
I, Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court

Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the
transcript is a true and correct transcription of
my stenotype notes of the testimony of

[ TT taken before the Federal Grand Jury,

West Palm Beach, Florida.

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